1 00:00:14,390 --> 00:00:10,370 I'd like to welcome you to the 4th iust 2 00:00:18,590 --> 00:00:14,400 dress p o WG that we have as we progress 3 00:00:20,599 --> 00:00:18,600 toward st s 26 i think most of you have 4 00:00:23,540 --> 00:00:20,609 been to all of them i see a lot of 5 00:00:25,609 --> 00:00:23,550 familiar faces out there the last pill 6 00:00:28,580 --> 00:00:25,619 WG you remember that we had was back in 7 00:00:33,970 --> 00:00:28,590 November and we've been running these 8 00:00:39,260 --> 00:00:33,980 about every six months we had the fo r 4 9 00:00:41,420 --> 00:00:39,270 2016 just a few months ago and we'll 10 00:00:43,310 --> 00:00:41,430 talk about what we'll schedule later but 11 00:00:48,470 --> 00:00:43,320 the next bill WG will probably be in the 12 00:00:50,540 --> 00:00:48,480 january of 88 time frame based on what 13 00:00:56,930 --> 00:00:50,550 our current schedule is for des ts26 14 00:00:58,819 --> 00:00:56,940 launch the minute taker for today is mr. 15 00:01:00,889 --> 00:00:58,829 Shelton Eubanks Elton is sitting right 16 00:01:04,039 --> 00:01:00,899 here next to me I'll remind you that all 17 00:01:05,990 --> 00:01:04,049 presenters should provide a copy of 18 00:01:07,910 --> 00:01:06,000 their view graphs as Elton so that we 19 00:01:09,770 --> 00:01:07,920 can get that in two minutes I mean the 20 00:01:12,250 --> 00:01:09,780 speed gives an undelete timeline on this 21 00:01:16,609 --> 00:01:12,260 flight to know I'm going to go do the 22 00:01:20,090 --> 00:01:16,619 catbus status my next formal publication 23 00:01:25,130 --> 00:01:20,100 is the basic cast far aways and January 24 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:25,140 88 and that's based on oie below its has 25 00:01:29,530 --> 00:01:26,850 is going to take it to a constant new 26 00:01:31,180 --> 00:01:29,540 launch date in second 27 00:01:34,450 --> 00:01:31,190 we don't have a preliminary will just 28 00:01:39,100 --> 00:01:34,460 flow actually take that out I guess it 29 00:01:41,980 --> 00:01:39,110 was Nessie eight out of the m to P to as 30 00:01:44,110 --> 00:01:41,990 far as the 26 a flow which was which is 31 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:44,120 the oh aight aight aight there are no 32 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:46,690 major flight design changes from the 33 00:01:53,770 --> 00:01:51,290 2060 flow so that means we will be using 34 00:01:56,650 --> 00:01:53,780 a 2060 basic reveille cap for the 35 00:01:58,990 --> 00:01:56,660 November Sam we're doing a lot of Sims 36 00:02:01,749 --> 00:01:59,000 integrated and joint integrated between 37 00:02:05,230 --> 00:02:01,759 now and then right now that well any sim 38 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:05,240 that are going to be using 6126 i'm 39 00:02:09,730 --> 00:02:07,130 going to be using this this cap basic 40 00:02:11,860 --> 00:02:09,740 moving what about some things that might 41 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:11,870 change the way we do business in the iOS 42 00:02:19,150 --> 00:02:14,890 world that ought to be in there any sim 43 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:19,160 well we 60 minutes or poisonous wine is 44 00:02:23,170 --> 00:02:21,410 transparent to not anybody am NOT going 45 00:02:25,570 --> 00:02:23,180 to be instituted in any of the blacks on 46 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:25,580 including the SMS code until june that's 47 00:02:29,420 --> 00:02:28,130 right for that's you know the sim day 48 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:29,430 following general i think 49 00:02:36,140 --> 00:02:33,450 the readiness date was somewhere we had 50 00:02:39,349 --> 00:02:36,150 an IRT day of subprime average annual 51 00:02:43,640 --> 00:02:39,359 like a larger centers a headset so you 52 00:02:46,789 --> 00:02:43,650 won't be savory 60 minutes epson life at 53 00:02:48,830 --> 00:02:46,799 what point we have gorgeous is released 54 00:02:53,899 --> 00:02:48,840 able to Sarah for what just we start 55 00:02:56,869 --> 00:02:53,909 using 2680 or 2016 basic dr. Tate okay 56 00:02:58,520 --> 00:02:56,879 well all the ones has been until our new 57 00:03:01,039 --> 00:02:58,530 cap comes out what you think january i 58 00:03:03,740 --> 00:03:01,049 think these sims start march i think we 59 00:03:06,289 --> 00:03:03,750 use that so probably all the symptoms up 60 00:03:09,500 --> 00:03:06,299 until the march timeframe truck will use 61 00:03:11,390 --> 00:03:09,510 the basic gravity and if there any 62 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:11,400 changes between now and then we could 63 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:14,730 either same pack or pcs most likely get 64 00:03:19,890 --> 00:03:23,250 yes what 65 00:03:23,260 --> 00:03:31,020 so I am 66 00:03:35,820 --> 00:03:33,480 I'm Fisher Reynolds the IUS complied 67 00:03:37,670 --> 00:03:35,830 with manager and Bob then right here 68 00:03:41,390 --> 00:03:37,680 it's going to get the status of 69 00:03:43,559 --> 00:03:41,400 outstanding for ID to the checklist that 70 00:03:46,530 --> 00:03:43,569 work to use that have been out since the 71 00:03:50,699 --> 00:03:46,540 pc and one that we used for rev a pc and 72 00:03:54,270 --> 00:03:50,709 one that we used for the sand along as 73 00:03:57,870 --> 00:03:54,280 far as publications saw an excuse on the 74 00:04:01,170 --> 00:03:57,880 schedule that we've got a ref be coming 75 00:04:03,660 --> 00:04:01,180 out in january to support the flr what 76 00:04:06,140 --> 00:04:03,670 I'm planning on doing right now and this 77 00:04:09,150 --> 00:04:06,150 is you know depending how things go 78 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:09,160 we've got the Rev a PCM one and then 79 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:11,170 we've got all these 42s as the sims come 80 00:04:16,530 --> 00:04:15,130 up I will begin incorporating these 42 s 81 00:04:18,900 --> 00:04:16,540 in the sim packs and putting them out 82 00:04:21,300 --> 00:04:18,910 and support the sims if it looks like 83 00:04:22,620 --> 00:04:21,310 we're getting a whole lot of sim packs 84 00:04:24,719 --> 00:04:22,630 with a lot of extra paper floating 85 00:04:27,630 --> 00:04:24,729 around we would definitely consider 86 00:04:29,969 --> 00:04:27,640 either formally publishing a PCN or 87 00:04:33,450 --> 00:04:29,979 another or revision be early for this 88 00:04:35,130 --> 00:04:33,460 birth Sam that's coming up next month we 89 00:04:36,719 --> 00:04:35,140 will not have any formal publication we 90 00:04:39,610 --> 00:04:36,729 will have a sim pack because there is no 91 00:04:41,770 --> 00:04:39,620 way to get a publication out in time 92 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:41,780 and why we target something like the 93 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:44,810 long sim in October that's what I'm a 94 00:04:49,270 --> 00:04:47,090 detective Deeks when I'm looking if not 95 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:49,280 to do I can't do it for next month but 96 00:05:09,300 --> 00:04:50,690 towards the end of the summer is when I 97 00:05:15,670 --> 00:05:13,180 justly for we have 24 hours that will be 98 00:05:21,100 --> 00:05:15,680 one hour on the other H and 40 minutes 99 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:21,110 in the suit and for a 12 hour at 10.2 100 00:05:27,220 --> 00:05:22,970 it's still one hour in the aviation a 101 00:05:30,430 --> 00:05:27,230 five-minute better food there there are 102 00:05:32,770 --> 00:05:30,440 two options in the cabin the initial 103 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:32,780 pre-breathe is always 60 minutes from 104 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:37,130 the hell eh the if the time at 10.2 is 105 00:05:46,450 --> 00:05:40,010 12 hours the final ensued pre-breathe 106 00:05:48,790 --> 00:05:46,460 would be 75 minutes okay the only thing 107 00:05:50,790 --> 00:05:48,800 we wanted to raise what's that if we 108 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:50,800 have new flight crew equipment that for 109 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:53,770 space mobility of reasons a lot of our 110 00:05:58,960 --> 00:05:56,810 protection flight rules for oxygen or 111 00:06:01,800 --> 00:05:58,970 possible toxic environment are based on 112 00:06:05,110 --> 00:06:01,810 the lah and we just wanted to raise that 113 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:05,120 due to mobility and ease of use that's 114 00:06:17,770 --> 00:06:13,610 the way the precautionary measure if we 115 00:06:19,510 --> 00:06:17,780 fire off more than one bottle it's 116 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:19,520 because we've got a problem where we 117 00:06:24,430 --> 00:06:21,770 think very seriously we have a problem 118 00:06:26,140 --> 00:06:24,440 so I'm wondering if we ought to be not 119 00:06:28,690 --> 00:06:26,150 to be testing that point three percent 120 00:06:31,570 --> 00:06:28,700 which is the one that that is more 121 00:06:33,670 --> 00:06:31,580 likely and less likely to be tied to a 122 00:06:35,770 --> 00:06:33,680 real problem rather than testing to the 123 00:06:37,390 --> 00:06:35,780 one percent which means you got it you 124 00:06:40,380 --> 00:06:37,400 could probably have a serious orbit of 125 00:06:43,690 --> 00:06:40,390 them right then that's a good point we 126 00:06:46,390 --> 00:06:43,700 really based on funding everything else 127 00:06:48,910 --> 00:06:46,400 and you pick one level to study what we 128 00:06:51,610 --> 00:06:48,920 have up front before the study will get 129 00:06:52,730 --> 00:06:51,620 going as a pilot study and if they're 130 00:06:55,430 --> 00:06:52,740 already significant 131 00:06:56,809 --> 00:06:55,440 changes the first 24 hours we'll go look 132 00:07:00,469 --> 00:06:56,819 at the one percent if there's something 133 00:07:03,170 --> 00:07:00,479 that raised the flag after being exposed 134 00:07:17,059 --> 00:07:03,180 for 24 hours of one percent will back 135 00:07:18,559 --> 00:07:17,069 that level we really don't have a fire 136 00:07:21,230 --> 00:07:18,569 we have a fire with father coming home 137 00:07:23,330 --> 00:07:21,240 the next day I say yeah but we need what 138 00:07:25,189 --> 00:07:23,340 you just talked about long ago the Caped 139 00:07:28,339 --> 00:07:25,199 roll if we don't want to accidentally to 140 00:07:30,350 --> 00:07:28,349 keep on going and if thats 3200 part 141 00:07:31,999 --> 00:07:30,360 from the end or one percenter or 142 00:07:35,180 --> 00:07:32,009 whatever it is we need to find out one 143 00:07:37,070 --> 00:07:35,190 level we can clear just still fly wit I 144 00:07:39,050 --> 00:07:37,080 guess one other question I had was is 145 00:07:40,879 --> 00:07:39,060 there something better than Alan on 30 146 00:07:45,170 --> 00:07:40,889 no one will respond with what the name 147 00:07:47,029 --> 00:07:45,180 isn't avail is it true if I don't know 148 00:07:48,860 --> 00:07:47,039 if anything is better we've researched 149 00:07:51,980 --> 00:07:48,870 it quite a bit of time some people are 150 00:07:55,159 --> 00:07:51,990 using out 1301 and you know there's a 12 151 00:07:58,279 --> 00:07:55,169 letting mixtures but most ating on its 152 00:08:00,680 --> 00:07:58,289 of using that mixture that just puts the 153 00:08:02,749 --> 00:08:00,690 twelve hundred thousand twelve hundred 154 00:08:07,010 --> 00:08:02,759 unit in here that just increases the 155 00:08:09,140 --> 00:08:07,020 expulsion makes it expels faster luck 156 00:08:10,719 --> 00:08:09,150 you up take just a minute to go around 157 00:08:13,089 --> 00:08:10,729 the table 158 00:08:15,939 --> 00:08:13,099 introduced to key players let me 159 00:08:17,679 --> 00:08:15,949 introduce the free board chairman my 160 00:08:21,580 --> 00:08:17,689 balls a lot of you know our overall 161 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:21,590 Thompson fresh seafood 38-6 162 00:08:26,230 --> 00:08:24,290 think hey get some preliminaries out of 163 00:08:30,570 --> 00:08:26,240 the way the neural cuts as comments to 164 00:08:36,959 --> 00:08:33,029 i'm john lovelace I'm saying here for 165 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:36,969 Bill gone Goddard and also supporting us 166 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:41,050 for Goddard is de Cristo case managers 167 00:08:47,900 --> 00:08:43,490 program 168 00:08:51,900 --> 00:08:50,840 I'm Bob shaft lean flight activities 169 00:08:54,030 --> 00:08:51,910 officer 170 00:08:55,710 --> 00:08:54,040 you'll need everybody else during the 171 00:08:59,310 --> 00:08:55,720 presentation that there are park 172 00:09:03,060 --> 00:08:59,320 managers or flat file are we reacting to 173 00:09:09,270 --> 00:09:06,410 and if on the day of when we go fly and 174 00:09:11,100 --> 00:09:09,280 we haven't disabled all the thermal 175 00:09:14,580 --> 00:09:11,110 shutdown the we have had some time to 176 00:09:15,930 --> 00:09:14,590 shut down and we do a recovery and it 177 00:09:20,450 --> 00:09:15,940 goes blame them and shuts itself right 178 00:09:23,310 --> 00:09:20,460 back down the right thing to do is doing 179 00:09:25,380 --> 00:09:23,320 the wind and understand what it is for 180 00:09:28,530 --> 00:09:25,390 we screw up something instead of 181 00:09:32,130 --> 00:09:28,540 reacting to a one specific type fail 182 00:09:33,870 --> 00:09:32,140 your thing that we saw in assumes and 183 00:09:36,300 --> 00:09:33,880 there's no rush in that type of in that 184 00:09:38,460 --> 00:09:36,310 where's mine and that type of the time 185 00:09:40,620 --> 00:09:38,470 we just reacting to a sim case a 186 00:09:42,090 --> 00:09:40,630 specific center and if it happens again 187 00:09:46,020 --> 00:09:42,100 we'll handle it just like we didn't 188 00:09:50,580 --> 00:09:46,030 assume right it will look at it you will 189 00:09:53,370 --> 00:09:50,590 have gotten a burst of data probably but 190 00:09:55,230 --> 00:09:53,380 not certainly and we'll think about 191 00:09:58,020 --> 00:09:55,240 whether we want to it's a long time in 192 00:10:03,740 --> 00:09:58,030 the septa story well we've seen the case 193 00:10:08,870 --> 00:10:07,070 I think we ought to not do this i would 194 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:08,880 actually agree with powell that's right 195 00:10:18,860 --> 00:10:12,930 i just want to get a result okay it 196 00:10:21,490 --> 00:10:18,870 hurts me to say that okay this next one 197 00:10:25,700 --> 00:10:21,500 is a small item right now the last part 198 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:25,710 a procedure covered car down essentially 199 00:10:38,450 --> 00:10:35,970 that's perform have the next slide 200 00:10:41,450 --> 00:10:38,460 please talk about flight rules and 201 00:10:43,340 --> 00:10:41,460 months commit criteria eid Gonzalez has 202 00:10:45,290 --> 00:10:43,350 already talked about all the data on 203 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:45,300 this slide like to talk about the only 204 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:48,330 one remaining open topic and it's not an 205 00:10:53,540 --> 00:10:50,730 issue it's something that I understand 206 00:10:56,090 --> 00:10:53,550 it's in the pit process Tina's folks 207 00:10:58,250 --> 00:10:56,100 have reduced size of their eclipse 208 00:11:03,140 --> 00:10:58,260 constraint from the large top hat to 209 00:11:04,130 --> 00:11:03,150 real small clips constraints and as I 210 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:04,140 understand they're going to be 211 00:11:07,970 --> 00:11:06,090 submitting or they have submitted change 212 00:11:10,940 --> 00:11:07,980 and it's charging the review process 213 00:11:12,740 --> 00:11:10,950 here just a heads up that's going to be 214 00:11:14,590 --> 00:11:12,750 being addressed we don't see from the OP 215 00:11:18,759 --> 00:11:14,600 standpoint any problem with development 216 00:11:23,019 --> 00:11:21,309 my launch commit criteria from the 217 00:11:25,629 --> 00:11:23,029 orbiter side as far as the payload 218 00:11:29,009 --> 00:11:25,639 operations related activities there's 219 00:11:31,479 --> 00:11:29,019 been no changes since Lancer mission 220 00:11:34,239 --> 00:11:31,489 from the control center again there's no 221 00:11:37,989 --> 00:11:34,249 changes since the last the last mission 222 00:11:40,269 --> 00:11:37,999 from the payload driven changes on the I 223 00:11:42,639 --> 00:11:40,279 us again there's no changes to 224 00:11:44,499 --> 00:11:42,649 understand from our discussion just last 225 00:11:47,499 --> 00:11:44,509 week there's been some agreements to go 226 00:11:51,850 --> 00:11:47,509 back and look at the automatic launch 227 00:11:54,489 --> 00:11:51,860 whole cut off of that t-minus thirty one 228 00:11:57,699 --> 00:11:54,499 second or ten seconds back to 31 but 229 00:12:00,850 --> 00:11:57,709 currently is what stock unit is at 31 230 00:12:04,499 --> 00:12:00,860 second or 10 seconds rather see stick 231 00:12:07,329 --> 00:12:04,509 there's no changes there as far as their 232 00:12:08,889 --> 00:12:07,339 documentation of launch holes for 233 00:12:13,179 --> 00:12:08,899 networking facilities and the flight 234 00:12:14,919 --> 00:12:13,189 rules they still can hold the count for 235 00:12:17,229 --> 00:12:14,929 those functions down to almost nine 236 00:12:21,869 --> 00:12:17,239 minutes and after death that we won't 237 00:12:29,650 --> 00:12:25,049 White Sands has been one small change 238 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:29,660 it's up here there they want to hold 239 00:12:36,819 --> 00:12:33,490 they've always had a hold in there for 240 00:12:39,759 --> 00:12:36,829 based upon the deployed time they want 241 00:12:41,379 --> 00:12:39,769 to have it back up about two hours they 242 00:12:45,220 --> 00:12:41,389 want to be back up not later than two 243 00:12:47,110 --> 00:12:45,230 hours prior to deploy no more questions 244 00:12:51,730 --> 00:12:47,120 rip you